Diamond Shrine

Hello, i recently made a build where i would use destructive link with a diamond shrine screams of the desiccated only to realize that diamond shrine doesn't actually effect your main hand crit chance. To me, the wording "all hits are critical strikes" would mean that my main hand critical strike chance should be 100%. This is very unfortunate that it doesn't work this way and i would like to open a discussion about changing the way diamond shrine works, or at least changing the wording on it if changing the functionality is not the correct path.

modifying MH crit chance wouldn't even make sense for diamond shrine,
just like how increased crit chance on the passive tree and such doesn't modify the mainhand crit chance.


its wording is completely fine as well as it describes what it does accurately.

i disagree. to me "you always deal critical strikes" sounds like my main hand critical strike chance should be 100%. clearly the diamond shrine isnt giving increased crit chance because you can crit with a diamond shrine and 0% base crit. it is modifying your base crit at some level. also its worth pointing out that increasing your crit chance does work with destructive link. all the more reason why diamond shrine not working is incredibly inconsistent with how the skill intuitively works.

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Lardbutt200#2694 wrote:

i disagree. to me "you always deal critical strikes" sounds like my main hand critical strike chance should be 100%.

Path of Exile is an infamously pedantic game.

Diamond Shrines could very easily say your critical strike chance is 100%. They don't.

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Lardbutt200#2694 wrote:

it is modifying your base crit at some level.

No. It is causing the game to disregard your critical strike chance.

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Diamond Shrines could very easily say your critical strike chance is 100%. They don't.

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No. It is causing the game to disregard your critical strike chance.

you make some valid points. i guess intuitively it seems like it should work to me and im someone who has thousands of hours and understands poe's specific wording usually. i can only imagine how a new person could also easily make this mistake. i do wonder if its intended to work this way or if it was an oversight that hadnt been discovered until the screams of the desiccated was created. personally i think if you give up your belt slot and unique flasks to give someone else 100% crit, its just as balanced, if not more balanced than giving up your main hand for trypanon.

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Lardbutt200#2694 wrote:

i do wonder if its intended to work this way or if it was an oversight that hadnt been discovered until the screams of the desiccated was created.

No, this wasn’t an oversight. The shrine effect has existed exactly like this forever and it also wasn’t an oversight when the belt was created. The belt simply grants you the shrine effect permanently. Nobody at GGG was figuring out how the belt should interact because there is nothing to figure out. Shrine buffs already work exactly as intended.

The shrine’s effect, “All hits are Critical Strikes,” guarantees that every hit is treated as a critical strike outright, regardless of your actual critical strike chance. Even if you are running around with only your base crit chance or using items like The Winds of Fate with a capped 50% crit chance, every hit will still be a critical strike. It simply flags every hit as a critical strike immediately, moving straight to the damage calculation for that crit. This is working exactly as intended.

The wording “All hits are Critical Strikes” does not mean “your main-hand weapon now has 100% critical strike chance.” It simply forces every hit to crit without modifying your weapon’s stats at all. Once again, this is working exactly as intended and happens without doing any calculation of whether you would normally hit a critical strike or not.

does this mean life leech from critical strikes are instant does not work?

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chaD#3533 wrote:

does this mean life leech from critical strikes are instant does not work?

It will work.

The hits are critical strikes; the game just isn't checking on a per-hit basis whether they "should" be.

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Sarno#0493 wrote:

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chaD#3533 wrote:

does this mean life leech from critical strikes are instant does not work?

It will work.

The hits are critical strikes; the game just isn't checking on a per-hit basis whether they "should" be.

ok thanks

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Sarno#0493 wrote:

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chaD#3533 wrote:

does this mean life leech from critical strikes are instant does not work?

It will work.

The hits are critical strikes; the game just isn't checking on a per-hit basis whether they "should" be.

if i have damage and life leech % such that life leech % * damage is greater than full life, do i get instant full heal on every attack with "life leech from critical strikes are instant"?